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OFFICIAL WARRIOR THREAD! (spoilers abound)

Postby Di-i-i » Wed Sep 07, 2011 6:50 am

I saw a sneak preview tonight, and it was spectacular. I'm still feeling quite emotional, as a matter of fact!

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The fights were intense. I think it's so funny to hear Joel and Tom speak so humbly about how they hope they "pulled it off" and look like they're real fighters in the film. Boys, you pulled it off. Amazingly well. Tom is FERAL in the cage. A beast, an absolute beast. When the Bane doubters see Warrior they'll eat their words. :boxing:

The most emotional part for me was when Tommy found Paddy drunk in the hotel and put him to bed. The last few seconds of that scene were so quiet and so powerful. I really, really hope Nolte gets an Oscar nod! His pain was palpable.

All of the acting was great. The story, while familiar, felt fresh to me. The family element is what sets it apart, in my opinion.

Warrior is an amazing film. I loved it.
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Postby Pimpington » Fri Sep 09, 2011 5:26 am

Seeing Tommy keep going even after he dislocates his shoulder was really, really painful, almost heart-breaking. I couldn't watch it. And the phone call to Pilar was poignant. The photo of him with Manny, of all things, made me tear up a bit because he was just so happy there! And to see how much pain and anger he was carrying now... Tom managed to give him a lot of depth. He's not all anger and angst, though there's definitely a lot of those. It was saved by the acting, really. Otherwise it would have been rather contrived and typical Hollywood. I'm sure I'm biased, but Tommy got to me. He's so damaged and you just want to help him, somehow. And you feel for Brendan being a human punching bag too. I really think I would have been drawn to Tommy anyway because he's the darker and mysterious character, but it didn't seem like that was the common reaction. Most of the audience seemed to root for Brendan and his family, even some clapping after he won his fights. But it's understandable when a lot of Americans are having to deal with similar situations right now and I guess he can be a sort of underdog hero for them, in the fantasy where a physics teacher has a chance to compete for $5 million so all his money problems will disappear. But I do think Tommy was getting a lot of sympathy too.

The accents were good. My friend couldn't tell that Joel is Australian (she already knew Tom is British), so kudos to them. One thing I was kinda iffy on was how gritty they made some of the shots, especially of Pittsburgh. It had a kind of gray quality to it, like CSI: NY if you've seen that. But talking to someone who hadn't seen any of the interviews and only knew of it from the TV spots and what little I shared, some of the story didn't make it across apparently, like the implication that Paddy had been a violent drunk and abused their mother or that Tommy had been Paddy's focus because of his wrestling.

I was happy that the music was less bombastic in the actual film that the trailer. Just the scene on the beach had a real "face off" feeling to it that was't necessary and the scene would have spoken for itself without the musical cue. Another thing I didn't like, though, was Gavin O'Connor's cameo as the guy organizing the tournament. I don't know why really, but that annoyed me. I'm sure most people wouldn't recognize him, though. And I didn't like Tommy tapping out immediately after Brendan says "I love you." That was too Hollywood sentimentality for me. I would have been fine if it had just been "Stop, Tommy! I love you. You're my brother. I'll share the money with you. Please stop." Just something more than "I love you." It's too...fairytale neat and pretty, like the words that broke the curse.

On a completely superficial level, I was surprised that Tom was only shirtless for the final tournament. He had a tank on at least and usually a hoodie the rest of the time. Damn him. And damn Joel for lying to us about him being shirtless half the time. Lies and misleading trailers!

But it was good. You can really see that it was geared more for Joel being the lead, though. Poor guy. And they cut out a few scenes, including Tommy's Mexican prison intro that we have a set photo for. No Mexican prison now.
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Postby Love?AndyLove! » Fri Sep 09, 2011 11:33 pm

i was going to go see it again tonight (saw the preview last weekend) but don't have the emotional reserve to watch the fighting--or the scenes between tom and nick/paddy. ripped my heart absolutely OUT. sorry i haven't had time to check in here at all! tumblr and life have me in their vice-like grip. kung fu grip? mixed martial arts' grip. ahh. that's better. . . btw, in one interview charlidos posted today, tommy talks about a scene that didn't make it, and joel seemed to agree in a way that made me think there are more than a few scenes that hit the floor (besides that and the prison, i mean). guess we'll have to wait for the dvd/blue. oh vell.

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PS: joel has beautiful shoulders. his physique is rarely mentioned, but OH MY.
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Postby AmiKae » Sun Sep 11, 2011 2:45 am

I definitely went into Warrior thinking I was going to hate everything except Tom (I really can't stand sports movies, but I will watch anything for Tom), and I was pleasantly surprised. Not only was Tom brilliant (natch), but everyone else did a great job, too. It still had a lot of the hallmarks of a typical Hollywood sports story, but I think the way it was filmed, and the fact that they consulted real MMA fighters and had Joel and Tom do most their own stunts made it seem a lot more like watching a real MMA competition, as opposed to a movie about one.

Anyway, I definitely agree with the point that people who have been doubting Tom's ability to play Bane are going to take it back now that this is out there. He was a monster.

And I just- Tommy's tap-out was just phenomenal. Absolutely perfect.
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Postby Trevania » Sun Sep 11, 2011 2:53 am

It was so good you guys. I sat on the edge of my seat with a smile on my face the entire time. Well, until the end when I had to pace myself. I was gone after Tommy dislocated his shoulder. I mean, the tears were streaming. I sat with one hand over my eyes during that entire scene and when Patty lost it/ relapsed. That was my absolute favorite scene. Notle was so emotionally jarring and Tommy just soothed him. Pulled him on the bed, rubbed his hair, closed his rob and soothed him. It was so beautiful.
Tommy, Joel, Nolte = All The Awards.
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Re: OFFICIAL WARRIOR THREAD! (spoilers abound)

Postby Pimpington » Sun Sep 11, 2011 3:22 am

This interview had an interesting bit with Gavin O'Connor, where he talks about the Moby Dick allegory: http://www.movieweb.com/movie/warrior/e ... featurette That's not a connection I made, but then I've never read the book. I saw Tommy wanting Paddy to fail in his sobriety as more of a desire to break him down and his price for forgiveness. He blamed Paddy for what happened to his mom, so he wanted Paddy to suffer as well in penitence.

And the scene with Paddy was the beginning of Tommy's breakdown? Uh yeah, very subtle indeed, as in I didn't see that at all.
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Postby Love?AndyLove! » Sun Sep 11, 2011 6:18 am

i thought---down he goes! <--- i mean tommy. he had to be a human being again because he finally broke his dad. there wasn't anywhere else for him to "go" after that, except down with the ship (no pun intended!). he didn't come back to see brendan (consciously, anyway)--i wonder if they hadn't been in the fight together if he would have seen him at all? dunno . . . will probably see it again tomorrow or monday. i'd like to see it with no crowd so i can really hear what's going on in my head (don't like dealing with audience reactions unless i'm there to gauge them), and feel my own feelings. i was so excited to see tommy up there it was hard, then harder because it was tommy riordan/conlon, not tommy hardy on the screen. he really scared me and that was GREAT.
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Postby beatlekim » Sun Sep 11, 2011 7:30 pm

Hi, Newbie here. Saw Warrior this weekend, loved it! I also love Rocknrolla. Who doesnt love Handsome Bob, right! I am also looking forward to seeing Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy. Not only Tom but another of my crushes..Mark Strong together again :). :eyebrowsdrool:
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Re: OFFICIAL WARRIOR THREAD! (spoilers abound)

Postby Di-i-i » Mon Sep 12, 2011 3:33 am

I love Mark Strong, too! I can't wait for TTSS...

My heart is still broken for Paddy....I do wish more was resolved at the end. My husband and I were talking about it after, and we both wished there was at least a sliver of something, even if they'd both hugged him, anything.

NAN, I want to see it again but I am hesitating for the same reasons!
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Postby Love?AndyLove! » Thu Sep 15, 2011 3:39 pm

Di--eeek! i'm still chickening out, plus i've had no time, but i will probably see it again before monday, if i can get into an early show--with only a few people. and so YEAH about paddy. maybe just seeing his two boys together after was enough for paddy, and i figger the three of them will definitely come together after that.

pleeez?!

i can't remember who said it--here? or tumblr, --that tommy said, "dad?" when his shoulder 'went'. i didn't hear it, so i'll def. be listening for that. . .i still kinda can't believe it, but the audience was so loud (groaning) then, i couldn't hear anything!

and to BEATLEKIM---mark strong? his voice alone makes me weak in the knees! hnghhhhhh! :o))

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